tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post7613581008926743040..comments2024-03-28T21:04:16.189-07:00Comments on The Blog of Phyz: Apple kills off KeynoteDean Bairdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17681829220589441713noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-92081677558458084002018-05-30T04:36:39.272-07:002018-05-30T04:36:39.272-07:00as a Mac user, I preferred Apple when it was a fai...as a Mac user, I preferred Apple when it was a failing company. They now seem to be so distracted by success, they make insanely stupid decisions — like this hobbling of <a href="http://visualsculptors.com/" rel="nofollow"> keynote </a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10355798533862622754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-88374353372074649162015-02-11T15:54:45.316-08:002015-02-11T15:54:45.316-08:00I have to say: as a Mac user, I preferred Apple wh...I have to say: as a Mac user, I preferred Apple when it was a failing company. They now seem to be so distracted by success, they're make insanely stupid decisions — like this hobbling of Keynote.<br />They seem to have substituted empathy for arrogance, at least on the software development front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-81199968379503334082014-10-28T16:56:36.159-07:002014-10-28T16:56:36.159-07:00I am so disappointed that Apple would release such...I am so disappointed that Apple would release such a poor successor to Keynote 5. As an enthusiastic Mac user evangelist for some 25 years now, I find the company is more and more often showing what can only described as contempt for its long time users.<br />I have literally hundreds of Keynote presentations that have been lovingly designed and refined since 2005, when my company dropped Powerpoint. None of these now work with the newly lobotomised Keynote 6.<br />I simply cannot understand why Apply would betray its loyal users in this way. Apple is fast becoming the cold, uncaring, unresponsive monolith that they compared IBM to in their '1984' advertisement all those years ago. Such a shame.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-11896946003204817002014-05-22T08:59:42.911-07:002014-05-22T08:59:42.911-07:00It is alarming to hear the nasty tone of the vario...It is alarming to hear the nasty tone of the various "pro" Keynote users in the above posts when a post appears that doesn't assault the latest iWork edition. Certainly, no one argues that Apple has disappointed everyone, pro and otherwise, by not making a stronger effort to preserve legacy features and functionality, but to be surprised and outraged that this has happened is a bit over the top: every software gains and loses features, compatibility, and functionality over time. Plus, Apple tends to ditch legacy stuff faster than everyone else. So the iWork revamp cannot be a surprise. But to piss on folks that aren't as irritated with the latest version of this particular software is silly. I, for one, appreciate being able to drop my keynote prezi into my iPhone, and deliver it through hardware that happened to have an apple tv linked to the projector (what a surprise at this particular venue, and fun!)<br /><br />As a professional lecturer, I learned things the hard way years ago. I do not use "every nuance" of a particular presentation software as I know these features can easily break when moving between operating systems, projector hardware, and software "updates". I do not expect to be able to drag and drop, or copy and paste, every current graphics file format into any particular presentation software. I understand that there will be issues with every presentation software. I expect that some older presentations are going to complain when I open them in a newer version of the host software. I realize that these are sad commentaries on the state of software engineering, but I have been around long enough to realize that this is not going to change anytime soon.<br /><br />Still, I use both powerpoint and keynote, warts and all, depending on the auditorium infrastructure and audience. The point is that one can be a "pro" user without using every nuance, copy pasting vector graphics, and without using latexit. Indeed, some "pro" users very intentionally avoid relying on these software-specific compatibilities as best as we can. I prefer keynote because it is simpler and thus constantly reminding me not to over-engineer my slides.<br /><br />Sometimes the technology gets in the way of the real purpose of using these software visual aids: the story. Watch a presentation by Garr Reynolds, Nancy Duarte, or Michael Alley. These are professional presenters from both the business (Garr) and academic worlds (Michael), and you will find a marked lack of use of the full feature-set of either keynote or powerpoint. Garr is not an effective presenter because he uses all the "pro" features of keynote, and Michael is an effective teacher even though he does not use animation builds and does not embed tons of content in his visuals. The presentation software and slides are not the most important parts of your talk.<br /><br />As for the new keynote, it is no more irritating to me on first use than moving from powerpoint to the original release of keynote back in the day. As a scientist, I can appreciate 'simpler is better' once in a while. I have to admit, however, that I like the improved interoperability of the software with iOS. But don't get me started on apple Pages.... I'll be the first to get out the pitchforks and torches on that rollback!!<br />Cheers, all<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-8431981845540613202014-05-18T14:38:45.938-07:002014-05-18T14:38:45.938-07:00Let me say "ditto" for Pages and Numbers...Let me say "ditto" for Pages and Numbers. I'm happy with Mavericks, but I always have to be careful when opening a doc to make sure I'm doing so with the iWork 09 version of the software. Tim Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16827602816746254630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-71749623275950793322014-05-02T09:36:32.771-07:002014-05-02T09:36:32.771-07:00Wow I sounded angry. My apologies. I take back my ...Wow I sounded angry. My apologies. I take back my very mean comment.Slaytexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07196060638225557572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-8922090032896044662014-03-21T22:17:08.033-07:002014-03-21T22:17:08.033-07:00I still use Keynote '09 for the moment as well...I still use Keynote '09 for the moment as well. I think you'll be able to use the old version for quite a while if you want to. I still have iMovie '06 and it works great after 8 years.AriXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17244774898217363701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-60208556332976350312014-03-04T18:41:58.568-08:002014-03-04T18:41:58.568-08:00drag & drop between latexit and keynote no lon...drag & drop between latexit and keynote no longer works! are you serious apple?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-60955034164382255892013-12-13T10:58:45.382-08:002013-12-13T10:58:45.382-08:00The person who wrote "...not trying to be arg...<b>The person who wrote "...not trying to be argumentative" is NOT A PRO USER</b>...obviously...and pretends to be. Sorry...but I recommend that everyone ignore that comment. The fact that you can't cut from keynote and paste perfectly a vector in Illustrator...shows a huge lack of understanding of how a "pro" user - uses Keynote. Apple screwed Keynote and everyone who was loyal to it. Such a bummer. :(Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14426650602491454114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-49962534473950619892013-11-23T12:12:10.404-08:002013-11-23T12:12:10.404-08:00"It was originally coded solely for Steve Job..."It was originally coded solely for Steve Jobs' use."<br /><br />It was originally an app that ran in Next OS. It was then ported, or perhaps reverse engineered, to run on the Mac.Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-44577156889157439292013-11-21T20:09:30.168-08:002013-11-21T20:09:30.168-08:00I agree completely with this article. The sad thin...I agree completely with this article. The sad thing is that this is a process that has been happening for years now (starting with the release of Lion). Finally it is getting ridiculous to the point where it is becomming obvious not only to the true "power users" but also to the average user. It is as if Apple has taken that corperate attitude that everyone using a Mac has 2 functioning brain cells and they should therfore continually reduce the functionality of the Mac OS and supporting applications. Very sad. (One of the clearest examples is the lack of multi-monitor support. Despite claims that Mavericks provides good multi-display support, the supporting Apps now make little use of multiple screens. Removing floating windows (as used in older iPhoto versions, and all the but latest iWork apps) reduces the functionality of those programs for every single Apple user with multiple screens. Shame on you Apple, shame on you!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-32315273836447467802013-10-30T18:16:28.436-07:002013-10-30T18:16:28.436-07:00Likely a valid workaround.
Sadly, the market for ...Likely a valid workaround.<br /><br />Sadly, the market for FCP shrunk drastically when Apple kludged that app and folks switched to Premier.<br /><br />Now they're kludging Keynote. Maybe they just don't want to be a software company anymore. The big money's in iPhones, iPads, and mini iPads.<br /><br />They may lose interest in full-on computers in the not-too-distant future. Who knows?Dean Bairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681829220589441713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-41873477905833130082013-10-30T08:38:42.870-07:002013-10-30T08:38:42.870-07:00Found this thread because keynote 6.0 doesn't ...Found this thread because keynote 6.0 doesn't offer transparent background anymore. I am commenting just to share a quick and duty workaround, but works nicely: make the background solid green, then in FCP apply the keyed effect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-70307699650581767262013-10-29T14:57:37.894-07:002013-10-29T14:57:37.894-07:00I completely agree with you. I use Keynote 09 on a...I completely agree with you. I use Keynote 09 on a daily basis - huge parts of my business as a trainer and team developer hinge on my presentations running flawlessly. <br />And I simply don't have the time to fix every bug the new version inflicts on my files. So, for me it's back to iWork 09. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-88498466884991411332013-10-29T03:42:35.378-07:002013-10-29T03:42:35.378-07:00I love Keynote too. We use it to present to client...I love Keynote too. We use it to present to clients! : /Camrynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-20260713610141964712013-10-28T16:00:38.220-07:002013-10-28T16:00:38.220-07:00I agree completely with your post. I never ever t...I agree completely with your post. I never ever thought of downgrading an Apple product before, but as soon as I returned from my last training presentation, I wiped my macbookair and reinstalled files from a clone I made just before installing keynote 6. What a mess apple has made of a once amazing app. Key features I've come to depend on for creating insanely great presentations have been removed or hobbled. Steve would never have let this pos out into the wild.. This is the first time I've ever been concerned about the future of my favorite company. Heard from an associate this morning that he got an error message that a file name was too long ( more than 31 characters.). WINDOZE had such problems years ago. Why now, on the Mac.?<br />Dr. Khttp://theartofchange.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-13472020108996228332013-10-28T14:27:21.126-07:002013-10-28T14:27:21.126-07:00While it is inexcusable that Apple will modify you...While it is inexcusable that Apple will modify your files and toss stuff Keynote no longer supports, declaring it dead is a little premature. iMovie eventually caught up and surpassed it's original version and I have no doubt iWork will do the same. What's beyond ridiculous is that Apple, for at least the <b>third</b> time in recent memory (iMovie, FCP and now the rest of iWork) has bungled something that wouldn't be as big a deal if they just <b>communicated</b> with the community. However by just tossing it out there like it's an upgrade when it obviously is a re-imagining with hopefully a delay in feature parity like with the old iMovie. Very disappointing from that aspect.EricEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-6592199457918643572013-10-28T08:06:58.643-07:002013-10-28T08:06:58.643-07:00Making the apps free lets Apple off any hook of hi...Making the apps free lets Apple off any hook of high expectations.<br /><br />The fact that Keynote hasn't seen an update in nearly 5 years communicates Apple's lack of commitment to software development.<br /><br />If the New Commandment is to be that iOS and OS X versions are to be equally capable (or incapable), then we will need to find a level of patience that will make a five-year lapse seem like the blink of an eye:<br /><br />Keynote will regain it's 2009 capabilities when iPads have as much processing power as Macintosh computers.<br /><br />I hope to be forgiven for not holding my breath.Dean Bairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681829220589441713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-63582830841140176492013-10-27T21:57:37.341-07:002013-10-27T21:57:37.341-07:00Actually, I agree wholeheartedly with this blog po...Actually, I agree wholeheartedly with this blog post. I couldn't be more disappointed with the newest version of Keynote. Why remove many of the features that have made it such an elegant alternative to PowerPoint? I am indeed a power user of Keynote--I live in the program, basically using it all day, every day, at the University level. Since the first release I have very carefully built (and continually refined) well over 500 different lectures, using every little nuance the program offers. So, for people like me, even the removal of a seemingly insignificant build option results in an enormous amount of additional work, as well as the loss of well-crafted elements of my lectures. I can only hope that those who claim it will rapidly improve (a la Final Cut Pro) are right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-59733741812030139892013-10-27T21:03:47.663-07:002013-10-27T21:03:47.663-07:00My 10 yr old son is very upset that his transition...My 10 yr old son is very upset that his transitions do not have colour any more. He made all his sparkle transitions match the picture.<br /><br />I need to find out how to revert back to 5.3<br />I am disappointed with version 6.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-79709819878053442802013-10-27T18:12:29.218-07:002013-10-27T18:12:29.218-07:00In terms of features, so far as I can tell, there ...In terms of features, so far as I can tell, there are a few things missing, a few major annoyances (e.g., my custom theme not importing correctly) and also a miscellany of nice feature and interface improvements.<br /><br />In terms of higher level strategy, I think there's a much more hopeful interpretation of what happened here. It's clear that ~ 5 years ago Apple decided that their strategy would be based on mobile, so they invested all their Keynote energy into developing an iPad Keynote app. Then they decided it was an untenable situation to have two independent and inconsistent Keynotes, so they launched a project to unify the file formats and perhaps the code to some degree. Both of those efforts would have been substantial ground-up efforts, making it difficult for the Keynote team to spend any time on refinements to the desktop app. Where this leaves us is, possibly, a very good situation: Apple has spent the time necessary to build a good unified foundation, and now the app can evolve more advanced features at a much higher rate than it has since 2009.<br /><br />I don't think this general strategy has to correspond to 'killing' the desktop app. I can easily imagine advanced features in the desktop app that the iPad can interpret and play back, but not easily edit, for example. That said, the simple fact of supporting the iPad will certainly divert some focus and make the overall Keynote experience less optimized for the desktop. I just don't think this needs to be a very dramatic difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31189917.post-76530258497457519962013-10-27T13:00:32.773-07:002013-10-27T13:00:32.773-07:00I saw your link on the Apple Discussion Board... n...I saw your link on the Apple Discussion Board... not trying to be argumentative, but I'm pretty happy with the revision and I am certainly a "pro" Keynote user. Sure there are some things I've had to "adjust" to in the last few days but overall, I find the program to be more intuitive in that it's already anticipating what I want to edit next by what I select. The new animations are great and it's got new features that I've wanted for awhile and never thought would appear (Pathfinder object tools and shadow appearance controls to just name two). I think some of the lacking items you mention simply don't apply to every power user out there. I think Keynote will continue to get better but like any software that goes through a major revision, there's some adapting to do on the user end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com